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Akai have tested
and recommend the following hard drives for the DPS12: (latest drive
list, Aug 99)
| Media |
Manufacturer |
Model |
Version |
Rec/PB |
Backup/Reload |
Memo |
| 2 GB HD |
IBM |
DCAS-32160
U/S |
S65A |
10tr REC
12tr PB |
OK |
|
| 2 GB HD |
Seagate |
ST52160N |
|
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| 2 GB HD |
NEC |
DSE2100S |
0306 |
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| 2 GB HD |
Western
Digital |
WDE2170 |
1.91 |
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| 4 GB HD |
IBM |
Ultrastar
DCAS-34330 |
S65A |
10tr REC
12tr PB |
OK |
|
| 4.3 GB HD |
Samsung |
WN34324U |
0105 |
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| 4.3 GB
HD |
Seagate |
Hawk ST34555N |
0930 |
12tr REC/PB* |
OK* |
Do not
use the "Format" function on this drive, use only the
"Erase" function. |
| 4.5 GB
HD |
Seagate |
Barracuda
ST34573N |
5698 |
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| 4.5 GB
HD |
Seagate |
Medalist
Pro ST34520N |
1281 |
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| 4.5 GB
HD |
Western
Digital Enterprise |
WDE4550 |
1.50 |
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| 9 GB HD |
Seagate |
ST19171N |
0023 |
12tr REC/PB |
OK |
|
| Zip |
Iomega |
ZIP 100 |
H.14 |
6tr REC/PLAY |
OK |
|
| Jaz |
Iomega |
V1000Si |
J86 |
8 tr REC
12tr PB |
OK |
|
| SyJet 1.5GB |
SyQuest |
SyJet1SE |
0095 |
NG |
NG |
Error after
formatting |
| 3.5"
230M MO |
Fujitsu |
M2512A |
1520 |
2tr REC/PB |
OK |
230MB,
128MB Rewritable disk only |
| 3.5"
640M MO |
Fujitsu |
M2513A |
1300 |
2tr REC/PB |
OK |
230MB,
128MB Rewritable disk only |
| 3.5"
640M MO |
Fujitsu |
M2513E |
0020 |
2tr- 4tr
REC* |
OK |
640MB disk
for backup/reload only |
OK = Usable
OK* = Usable conditionally
NG = Can't use (no good)
Blank = Not checked
In addition, here
are some specs of some of the drives, if you want to have a rough idea
of the recommended specs to get a drive for your DPS12:
- SEAGATE
ST34520N: (Medalist Ultra Narrow)
8.5ms / 7200rpm / 512k cache. Data Rate 108-193mbit/sec. 3.5"
x 1". Ultra.
- IBM
DCAS-34330: (Ultrastar 2ES Ultra Narrow)
8.5ms / 5400rpm / 512k cache. Data Rate 62-103mbit/sec. 3.5"
x 1". Ultra.
- Western
Digital WDE4550: (Enterprise Ultra2 Wide?)
7.8ms / 7200rpm / 512k cache. Data Rate 108-172mbit/sec. 3.5"
x 1". Ultra2.
Akai also installed
the following drives in list members' machines with complete success:
- IBM
UltraStar 9ES 4.5 (DDRS 34560), 4.5 GB
List members have
also reported that the following drives are working fine in their machines:
- IBM DNES-309170
SE 9.1 gig (used externally) 7ms / 7200rpm. Ultra2, 50pin connector
- Seagate ST39173N
(9.1 gig)
- Syquest 135
removable
- works like a Zip - up to 6 or 7 tracks or so.
- Syquest
Syjet - works
fine for backup, but not recommended for recording (only manages 1
or 2 tracks at a time). Again, see comments for the "Orb"
below.
- Castlewood
Orb - works, but hasn't been particularly recommended, for similar
reasons to the Jaz. It seems that these kind of removable media drives
just can't take the kind of continued abuse that recording audio demands.
Should be OK for a backup device, though.
- IBM DNES-318350
SCSI 18.3 gb, 50 pin - wouldn't format, but works OK nevertheless.
See the comment below about the IBM
DNES-309170N (9
gig version of the same drive.)
List members have
also reported that the following drives didn't work for them:
- IBM DNES-309170N
(9.1 gig) - didn't format. Incidentally,
this may be because of the following information from Ian <ian@michaelhutchence.org>:
"Mystery
solved regards the new IBM DNES-309170 ( 9.1 gig ) and also the
18 gig drives. A careful check on the IBM hard drive support page
reveals that : THESE DRIVES MUST NEVER BE LOW LEVEL FORMATTED. Apparently
they come already low level formatted and free of errors and so
they can be damaged according to IBM if you attempt to do it. Fortunately
the Akai command must be like the quick format command after Fdisk
when partitions are decided upon on a PC. SO the good news is that
these very quite, very fast SCSI drives ARE very suitable to the
Akai and are ready to rock n' roll the moment you physically install
them. It also explains why one poor Akai Deeps user disregarded
the IBM DNES drive after he couldn't format it. All that was required
was to do the "Format" command which apparently places the FATS
tables in seconds, then you are free to record to your hearts content!!!!!
"
If you want to
install an internal drive yourself, the following procedure from Greg
<greg@lolife.freeserve.co.uk>
should help:
"I found
the most difficult part to be working out how the physical re-assembly
of the DPS should be done, it took me a false start before I realised
that the sequence is:
- Put the DPS
upside down (I found that sitting it on a big piece of foam seemed
safest. This avoids putting all the weight on the pots and the faders)
- Put the drive
(again upside down) into the bay area provided, resting on the plastic
supports at the front and in the metal cutout at the back.
- Fit the two
cables (power and data) between the drive and the main circuit board.
They will only connect into the right sockets and only go in the right
way up, so you can't go far wrong. Just make sure that the cables
are routed through the big gap in the large metal support rather than
just going over the top of it. Also ensure that you fold the ribbon
cable so that it makes nice clean direction changes where you want
it to go, rather than ending up just squashed "any old how"
somewhere inside the DPS.
- Screw the
bracket (upside down) onto the drive. I did use the rubber grommets
provided (by putting them between the drive and the bracket) but you
can't use them as they were designed to be used (with the little metal
bushes in them), as the grommets only fit inside the large mounting
holes and they were in the wrong place for my HDD.
- Fit the bottom
plate back onto the DPS ensuring that the four screws that go through
into the bracket are lined up correctly."
Colin
<ckh@btinternet.com> also
posted the following pictures and description of dissassembling the
DPS12.
ext-scr.jpg
Shows all the case screws (yellow) - 15 if I can count correctly.
Also the 4 screws which attach the base to the drive mounting plate
(purple-ish) and the 4 screws which attach the mounting plate to the
drive itself (sky blue) - the base will come off without these removed,
but you'll have to take them off anyway later.
int-scr.jpg
The base is off and you can see the drive connected to the mounting
plate. With the Jaz the 4 lime-circled holes were used, but these
didn't fit my new hard drive. As a result, I used 4 spare screws I
had from an old computer (purple) - these are standard size, just
be careful when fitting them that you have the right ones. I've also
circled the SCSI connector (yellow) and the power cable (sky blue)
just for a laugh. The drive power cable on mine was attached to the
Jaz with glue, so might need a bit of (careful) force to remove.
drv-scr.jpg
Shows the drive with the mounting plate removed. The four holes
used with the spare screws are circled purple. Circled in yellow are
the two banks of jumpers on my drive, but unfortunately my cam doesn't
show close-ups very well. The right hand bank has only one jumper
set on - "Term. power on" - so I guess yours should be too. The left
has the ID jumpers set, but also jumpered ON are "enable auto spin"
(also seen as "auto start") and "SCSI term. on" (also seen as "enable
active termination"). Anything else I would leave as it is.
Akai have tested
and recommend the following CD drives for the DPS12: (latest drive list,
Aug 99)
| Media |
Manufacturer |
Model |
Version |
Audio
CD |
Backup/Reload |
Memo |
| CD-RW |
Ricoh |
MP-7060S |
1.20 |
OK |
OK |
Read: 24x
Write: 6x |
| CD-RW |
Ricoh |
MP6200S |
2.20 |
OK |
OK |
Read: 6x
Write: 2x |
| CD-RW |
Ricoh |
MP6201S |
2.03 |
OK |
OK |
Read: 6x
Write: 2x |
| CD-RW |
Yamaha |
CRW4260 |
t.0r |
OK |
OK* |
*should
be t.0r version
Read: 6x Write: 4x |
| CD-RW |
Yamaha |
CRW4416 |
t.0h |
OK |
OK* |
*should
be t.0h version
Read: 6x Write: 4x |
| CD-R |
Caravell |
CDR-N820S |
CA02 |
OK |
OK |
Read: 20x
Write: 8x |
| CD-R |
Plextor |
PX-R412C |
1.04 |
OK |
OK |
Read: 12x
Write: 4x |
| CD-R |
Plextor |
PX-R820T |
1.01 |
OK |
OK |
Read: 20x
Write: 8x |
| CD-R |
Plextor |
PX-W4220T |
1.01 |
OK |
OK |
Read: 20x
Write: 4x |
Yamaha
100-series CD-R drives do not support
MMC, and hence do not work.
Yamaha produces 100-series, 200-series,
400-series and 4260-series drives, but only the 200-series and up are
MMC (Multi Media Command) supported. They offer:
- CDR200tx-VK External Type R x6/W x2
- CDR200t-VK Internal Type R x6/W x2
- CDR400tx-VK External Type R x6/W x4
- CDR400t-VK Internal Type R x6/W x4
- CRW4260txVK External Type R x6/W x4/RW
x2
- CRW4260tVK Internal Type R x6/W x4/RW
x2
- Akai have only
confirmed with 4260-series drives.
JVC's drives do not support MMC
yet so the following drives do not work:
For your information,
there are other drive manufacturers that Akai haven't checked yet: Teac,
Panasonic, Plextor, Sony.
List members have
reported the following:
- Ricoh
MediaMaster DP6200S works
- Plexwriter
4/2/20 works
- Philips
CDD3600 works
- Sony
Spressa cdu924s does not work
- Yamaha
4416S most people: glitches on
backups
See note about 4416/4260
- Yamaha
4416SX for a few people it works
ok
- Yamaha
4416SX 1.0e and 1.0g (latest) glitch.
1.0f glitches less, but still glitches.
- Yamaha
4416SXZ glitches on backups, works
ok for one person
- Yamaha
CDR-RW 4260 glitches
on backups
- Smart
and Friendly CD-RW (model 226)
does not work
- Logitec
CRW-848 (Yamaha drive mech.) glitches
on backups
- Panasonic/Matsushita
CW-7501-B
Rev. 1.4D or Rev. 2.0 does not work
- Yamaha 6416
works, no glitches on backups. CD player functions don't work properly
(as on 4416 and 4260)
- Ricoh MP7040s
works fine
- Ricoh MP7060s
works fine
- TEAC CD-R50S
(97 model) does not work
- Ricoh MP8040SE
writes audio Ok,
but freezes the DPS12 at the "processing - please wait"
screen on backups and hence can't be used for backups
- Plextor Plexwriter
8220 works fine
- Yamaha 8424
works fine for audio and the CD player functions, but one report said
that backed up projects can't be reloaded, so it's use as a backup
medium seems in doubt at the moment.
- HP CD Writer
Plus 9200e - works fine
- Nomai
680 - works fine (this is a Ricoh 6200 under the hood)
- TEAC CDRE58
- works fine
- Tascam 624
CDR (also sold as Teac) - works fine
- YAMAHA CDRW
8824S - works fine
- HP CD Writer
Plus M820 - works fine.
Note:
Yamaha CDR4416 and CDR4260
Previous versions
of these drives have given problems with backing up to CD, resulting
in various glitches in the backed up data. Akai have now released a
fix for both these drives, in the form of a new firmware version (version
"t.0h" on my drive). Both these upgrade files come with a
PC upgrade utility. You can also download a Mac utility from Yamaha's
YST site. To perform the upgrade you will need to connect your CDR
drive to your computer via SCSI. Run the supplied utility and it should
flash the CDR with the new software. More details are contained in the
update files:
I have tested the
4416 version and so far I get no glitches, so the fix would appear to
solve the problem once and for all. If you are using a one of the above
Yamaha CD drives with your DPS12, especially if you are using it for
backing up projects, I would advise you to do this upgrade, even if
you haven't noticed any problems. It is also worth noting that the "CD
Player" functions still don't work with the Yamaha drives, so it's
not possible to use the DPS to start playback of unfinalised disks,
although the playback of commercial disks works fine.
Yamaha have also
released a new "1.0h" version that you can also download from
their YST site above. The only change in this version is the DPS12 backup
bugfix. This "1.0h" version is not identical to the Akai released
version, and is in fact a later version still. It still backs up DPS12
data fine, so I recommend upgrading the 4416 to the current 1.0h Yamaha
version for best compatibility. You can get this version again from
Yamaha's YST site.
Akai also
recommended the following drives:
- Yamaha
CRW4260 version 1.0g (see
note above about Yamaha drives)
- Ricoh
MP6201S version 2.03
- Caravell
CDR-N820S version CA02
- Plextor
PX-R412C version 1.04
Currently, the
best bet is the current generation of Plextor and Ricoh drives, as many
list members are using these drives successfully with the DPS12.
Also, now that Akai
have a fix for the Yamaha 4416 and 4260 drives, these would also appear
to be a good choice (providing that you update your drive with the latest
firmware).
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